Jul 27, 2005, 05:04 PM // 17:04
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Jul 2005
Guild: The Addled Northmen
Profession: E/Me
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Spirit Shackles can also be obtained by doing the quest Blood and Smoke. This rather long quest starts with Deep Root, an NPC in Ettin's Back, right outside of Ventari's Refuge.
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Aug 06, 2005, 07:54 PM // 19:54
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: boring ohio
Guild: death knights of the apocolypse
Profession: E/Mo
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i like this skill a lot cause if use mindwrack its a huge pain in the as
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Aug 20, 2005, 10:29 AM // 10:29
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#4
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Ascalonian Squire
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Norway
Guild: Noir Guild
Profession: R/Mo
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Just wondering - why is this skill in Inspiriation magic?
To me that doesn't make much sence...
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Aug 23, 2005, 11:41 PM // 23:41
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#5
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Aug 2005
Profession: Me/Mo
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Yeah, this should be domination magic. I was really hoping to grab this skill and use it combination with Mind Wrack...I hope they change this.
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Aug 24, 2005, 12:28 AM // 00:28
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: currently Texas =[
Guild: Court Of The Fallen [CotF]
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this is one of the BEST energy denial skills.
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Aug 24, 2005, 01:05 AM // 01:05
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#7
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jul 2005
Profession: Me/E
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Frankly, I never liked this skill...
It takes too long to cast, I feel... even with Fast Casting on a higher level.
I've also found it to be not too useful against human Monks, Elementalists, and some Necros. Mesmers can also avoid it, although that would decrease their damage output a bit.
And unfortunately, as a Mesmer, I'm often left to take care of the monks. Unless they're a smiter, monks don't attack a whole lot, I've found.
It's really only energy denial for attack-based characters. Who don't have a whole lot of energy to begin with. For casters, it's more attack-denial. 5 energy is far more valuable to them than a couple points of damage.
So, basically, a smart player won't be too hurt by this. I'd rather play something that forcefully drags the energy from them. Ether Lord, Energy Tap... come on, there's bound to be something you aren't already running to trigger Mind Wrack.
If you don't like a whole lot of reading, though, here's the summary: Me no likey dis skill.
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Aug 30, 2005, 09:20 PM // 21:20
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Academy Page
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: The Akkadians (AkX)
Profession: E/Me
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I have found that this skill is a great asset, with higher levels of fast casting, you can get it casting about 2 seconds (which is plenty). As fast as it recharges you can lay it down on multiple targets at once. The reason this skill is such a great energy denial, is that once you have drained someone's energy with Energy Tap, Malaise, Ether Lord, or Energy Drain, then tag this one on them. They have 0 energy now...what are they going to do, cast a spell? No. They will attack, ensuring their energy stays at zero. If they do nothing, you've succeeded in destroying their build from inside out. Best they can do at that point is use a signet.
Now, I've used this skill to great effect, especially against warriors. I had a really fun energy denial mesmer, that I build solely for random arena. I was able to go toe-to-toe with most warriors, and kill them. Shackles and Mind Wrack them. If they stop attacking, they aren't going to kill you. If they keep attacking, you can wrack them fast enough to do 70 damage shots quickly to them. If you're draining their monk's energy, with other skills, while they wail on you from behind, they aren't going to get a heal. Throw wastrels on them too. Although less effective on warriors as it is on 0 energy mages, it'll keep their energy out or them taking good damage.
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Aug 31, 2005, 12:00 AM // 00:00
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#9
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Frost Gate Guardian
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Ever use this skill on a Ranger?
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Aug 31, 2005, 01:30 AM // 01:30
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#10
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Frost Gate Guardian
Join Date: Jul 2005
Profession: Me/E
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For once, I am forced to quote myself...
"And unfortunately, as a Mesmer, I'm often left to take care of the monks. Unless they're a smiter, monks don't attack a whole lot, I've found."
Emphasis there, my friends. I've gone entire GvG matches without attacking with my healer monk a single time. If a monk has the option between a healing spell and attacking once, most would pick the spell. Hence, Shackles has nothing there.
Overall, though, I see the point in the "press the advantage" argument. It keeps their energy down, or else removes them from combat.
Still, I feel the spell is rather slow. 2 seconds casting time via fast casting may not be much for an elementalist or some necromancers, but for a mesmer... way too slow. It could just be that I'm used to my instant gratification and therefore can't stand slow spells... but this is indeed a relatively slow one.
Wastrel's Worry is an awesome choice for this kind of build... the problem is, it would be very hex-heavy. Backfire (slows down the spell casting while you drain energy), Mind Wrack, Wastrel's Worry, Spirit Shackles, and likely one or two others, such as Ether Lord and/or Malaise. That's 5-6 hexes. Nature's Renewal may have gotten nerfed somewhat, but the reliance on hexes still isn't necessarily a good thing.
I will nonetheless have to give this skill a second shot. I'm a huge fan of energy denial, as it leads to Mind Wrack eating healing monks (my #1 hated class to play against)... but for some reason, this skill never really appealed to me.
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Aug 31, 2005, 01:37 AM // 01:37
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Forge Runner
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Alaska
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you can get this skill outside lion's arch from the gargoyal boss outside the ascalon settlement. At least I did... luck? He has three skills to offer, including a stance.
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Aug 31, 2005, 09:12 AM // 09:12
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#12
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: May 2005
Location: IA
Guild: Chronicles of Heroes [CoH]
Profession: R/Me
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This is the Ranger shutdown skill. A Ranger without Energy is nothing. This will take his energy quick, or force him to stop shooting.
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Aug 31, 2005, 01:34 PM // 13:34
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Academy Page
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Where ever the hell i feel like living
Guild: Iim always in a new one so i just wont say
Profession: W/
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this is also for those annoying paladins(W/Mo) who use hammer skills,which some of them cost energy instead of adrenaline, and for those war/mes who cast backfire on the casters for group safety. this is for rangers and any war/caster class. my ranga hates it.
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Nov 02, 2005, 02:40 PM // 14:40
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#14
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Wilds Pathfinder
Join Date: Aug 2005
Profession: Mo/
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KOGA202
i like this skill a lot cause if use mindwrack its a huge pain in the as
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nice combination, i learned it the hard way from mergoyles at kryta haha. all i could do was stand around and wait for it to wear off.
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Nov 02, 2005, 04:15 PM // 16:15
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Lion's Arch Merchant
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Canada, Gatineau
Guild: None
Profession: Mo/R
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Aeron
Just wondering - why is this skill in Inspiriation magic?
To me that doesn't make much sence...
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Domination are mostly mesmer skills which punnishes/rewards you by dealing damage to a foe or healing you when you or your foe perform certain actions.
Illusion Is a mix of both Domination and Inspiration as well as carrying status affects and hinderers
Inspiration has to do with energy gain and denial
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Spirit shackles Causes a foe to loose energy every time he/she attacks (not necessarily hits) and thus is an Inspiration skill.
Empathy is the Domination version of it, dealing damage whenever the foe attacks (not necessarily hits).
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Jul 08, 2006, 04:35 AM // 04:35
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Pre-Searing Cadet
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: swartz creek, Michigan
Profession: Me/Mo
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Mavrik is right. the beach north west of the gates of kryta has a mergoyle boss that has several wanted mesmer skills.
WARNING: LEAPS THUNDERCLAP is another boss that randonmly spawns there. he is NOT the boss with mesmer skills.
Last edited by watermellon125; Jul 08, 2006 at 04:42 AM // 04:42..
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Jul 16, 2006, 05:47 PM // 17:47
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jun 2005
Guild: The Amazon Basin [AB]
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Do the obligatory Touch Ranger skills trigger this?
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Jul 16, 2006, 06:06 PM // 18:06
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#18
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Desert Nomad
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Canada, Qc
Guild: [Holy]
Profession: Me/Mo
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sereng Amaranth
Do the obligatory Touch Ranger skills trigger this?
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I don't know, but you can test it against Master of Energy-Denial in the Isle of Nameless to know if it affect touch skill too.
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Jul 16, 2006, 06:31 PM // 18:31
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Banned
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Sereng Amaranth
Do the obligatory Touch Ranger skills trigger this?
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Touch Skills aren't Attack skills.
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Jul 25, 2006, 07:00 PM // 19:00
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#20
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Forge Runner
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Thornill, ON, Canada
Guild: THE CANUCK MONKS (TCM)
Profession: W/R
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Spirit Shackles (inspiration) + Soothing Images or Sympathetic Visage (Illusion) vs Warrior. Shuts down Warriors.
Spirit Shackles + either Ether Lord and/or Blackout. Hello Monk, do you like to sit there and watch? Or would you feel compelled to do something, like attack with your staff?
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